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	<title>Comments on: You Know What Big Fish Games Affiliate System Is Missing?</title>
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		<title>By: nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/02/02/you-know-what-big-fish-games-affiliate-system-is-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-139635</link>
		<dc:creator>nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you might not want to join BFG.... Since they rolled out the new program they have not issued a single payment. In fact they still do not have a payment system in place at all. Your time may be spent better working for a program that actual pays out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you might not want to join BFG&#8230;. Since they rolled out the new program they have not issued a single payment. In fact they still do not have a payment system in place at all. Your time may be spent better working for a program that actual pays out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So have you seen the changes to the affiliate program and if so, what do you make of it all? Yes, it&#039;s good that the commission is now 40% (gross percentage) compared to the 25% it was before, but am wondering how things are going to be affected with the fact that you no longer earn a percentage of the commissions from people you referred. Also, with the fact that any customers who signed up under over 12 months ago will no longer be your customers, it will be interesting how this affects commissions overall. I guess time will tell. Even though I will have to wait and see because I am not even able to re-register as the form won&#039;t accept my address details...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So have you seen the changes to the affiliate program and if so, what do you make of it all? Yes, it&#8217;s good that the commission is now 40% (gross percentage) compared to the 25% it was before, but am wondering how things are going to be affected with the fact that you no longer earn a percentage of the commissions from people you referred. Also, with the fact that any customers who signed up under over 12 months ago will no longer be your customers, it will be interesting how this affects commissions overall. I guess time will tell. Even though I will have to wait and see because I am not even able to re-register as the form won&#8217;t accept my address details&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>same problem here.

I ve setup a full feature site for BP based on xml feed (several week of work) and now my revenues is still 0 . 

I m sure there s at least two sales , because i tested myself the system and bought two different games from 2 differents emails (including a totally new hotmail email that cant be in their database already)

other companies like real/trygames provides stats with number of download ... sales and refund etc.. , 


I ve heard of the point mentionned by Neroli  but how can we verify they dont cheat ? at least they should report sales (which game sold and when) and report that this customer is already someone else affiliate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>same problem here.</p>
<p>I ve setup a full feature site for BP based on xml feed (several week of work) and now my revenues is still 0 . </p>
<p>I m sure there s at least two sales , because i tested myself the system and bought two different games from 2 differents emails (including a totally new hotmail email that cant be in their database already)</p>
<p>other companies like real/trygames provides stats with number of download &#8230; sales and refund etc.. , </p>
<p>I ve heard of the point mentionned by Neroli  but how can we verify they dont cheat ? at least they should report sales (which game sold and when) and report that this customer is already someone else affiliate.</p>
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		<title>By: Neroli</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/02/02/you-know-what-big-fish-games-affiliate-system-is-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-136259</link>
		<dc:creator>Neroli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. Let&#039;s hope the field keeps growing. :) 

Also wondering about the My Game Space page. Not much seems to be happening there. One thing I noticed...if you look at the My Games Space home page, it automatically lists featured games, even if you haven&#039;t changed anything. Now, if you look at somebody else&#039;s game page, it usually lists different games, or games in a different order. I think this hints at the games which are selling best for your particular affiliate code (based off of what I&#039;ve been promoting and what appears to be featured on my own page). 

But yeah....real stats would totally help! It&#039;s kind of odd that they didn&#039;t include these from the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. Let&#8217;s hope the field keeps growing. :) </p>
<p>Also wondering about the My Game Space page. Not much seems to be happening there. One thing I noticed&#8230;if you look at the My Games Space home page, it automatically lists featured games, even if you haven&#8217;t changed anything. Now, if you look at somebody else&#8217;s game page, it usually lists different games, or games in a different order. I think this hints at the games which are selling best for your particular affiliate code (based off of what I&#8217;ve been promoting and what appears to be featured on my own page). </p>
<p>But yeah&#8230;.real stats would totally help! It&#8217;s kind of odd that they didn&#8217;t include these from the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/02/02/you-know-what-big-fish-games-affiliate-system-is-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-136137</link>
		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s still room for people. Casual games sales (and digital sales as well) is going way up, while retail model is getting down. 

One could even start doing casual games program via his local town, introducing leaflets to people to try free games. (Or whatever! :) I&#039;m 100% there&#039;s still plenty of room for newcomers.

In fact... those who will come today will be one happy campers after 3 more years... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s still room for people. Casual games sales (and digital sales as well) is going way up, while retail model is getting down. </p>
<p>One could even start doing casual games program via his local town, introducing leaflets to people to try free games. (Or whatever! :) I&#8217;m 100% there&#8217;s still plenty of room for newcomers.</p>
<p>In fact&#8230; those who will come today will be one happy campers after 3 more years&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Neroli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neroli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andre: My guess is that YOU are someone else&#039;s affiliate. Because they have a lifetime model, even if you signed up for your account years ago, you belong to whoever introduced you. Even if you click through over another account and buy games, the first guy that caught you owns you as a customer. 

That is why it&#039;s harder to get in now, vs. 3 years ago. A lot of the regular customers are taken. It&#039;s tougher to convert new customers, so you really need to think out of the box.

As a late comer, I&#039;d like to see them adopt a new model so that we get paid for directing traffic at the moment, sort of like Amazon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andre: My guess is that YOU are someone else&#8217;s affiliate. Because they have a lifetime model, even if you signed up for your account years ago, you belong to whoever introduced you. Even if you click through over another account and buy games, the first guy that caught you owns you as a customer. </p>
<p>That is why it&#8217;s harder to get in now, vs. 3 years ago. A lot of the regular customers are taken. It&#8217;s tougher to convert new customers, so you really need to think out of the box.</p>
<p>As a late comer, I&#8217;d like to see them adopt a new model so that we get paid for directing traffic at the moment, sort of like Amazon?</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andre: that&#039;s quite an accusation. 

I&#039;ll wanna test this too and see what happens. They might track your IP and disallow discounts when buying through affiliate account. 

Or maybe the purchase will be tracked later time (like after potential chargeback or something?).

@James: yes, I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andre: that&#8217;s quite an accusation. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wanna test this too and see what happens. They might track your IP and disallow discounts when buying through affiliate account. </p>
<p>Or maybe the purchase will be tracked later time (like after potential chargeback or something?).</p>
<p>@James: yes, I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing they need to do is hire an affiliate manager. I have started pulling information from the big fish twitter page on current promotions.. The last time andrew mcnett updated the site was 6 months ago!   The affiliate program is pretty much non-existant as far as they are concerned..  The gamespace program should have launched bfg&#039;s into the stratosphere with the explosion in social networking and they just did not manage it correctly..  sad so sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing they need to do is hire an affiliate manager. I have started pulling information from the big fish twitter page on current promotions.. The last time andrew mcnett updated the site was 6 months ago!   The affiliate program is pretty much non-existant as far as they are concerned..  The gamespace program should have launched bfg&#8217;s into the stratosphere with the explosion in social networking and they just did not manage it correctly..  sad so sad</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Spierings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre Spierings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I signed up for the bigfishgames affiliate program.

The first thing i did was test my affiliate link to see if they track sales. I signed up as a customer and bought a product and the sale was not tracked in the affiliate program. So clearly they cheat sales.

I asked for a chargeback and explanation for the reason they were not tracking my sales. Contact form and email got me no replies three months down the track.

I ended up making $20 off sales through them by selling their downloadable games (mostly because i didn&#039;t get around to changing the link)

And now today I get charged by paypal for buying a $6.99 game through them from my customer account. A game I did not buy. (after making more than 15 game sales to them, the ones that were tracked, nither of my sales were).

I have reported this to paypal.

So i&#039;m $15 down for making two game purchases (that were not tracked and one I didn&#039;t even make). Which gives me a total of $5 for over 15 game sales.

If you have any dealings with this company be very careful. They are uncontactable and from my experiance unscrupulous. They don&#039;t even track clicks.

I&#039;ve been promoting and selling stuff through affiliates since 2001. I have never seen customer service or sales scraping as bad as this.

Stay away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed up for the bigfishgames affiliate program.</p>
<p>The first thing i did was test my affiliate link to see if they track sales. I signed up as a customer and bought a product and the sale was not tracked in the affiliate program. So clearly they cheat sales.</p>
<p>I asked for a chargeback and explanation for the reason they were not tracking my sales. Contact form and email got me no replies three months down the track.</p>
<p>I ended up making $20 off sales through them by selling their downloadable games (mostly because i didn&#8217;t get around to changing the link)</p>
<p>And now today I get charged by paypal for buying a $6.99 game through them from my customer account. A game I did not buy. (after making more than 15 game sales to them, the ones that were tracked, nither of my sales were).</p>
<p>I have reported this to paypal.</p>
<p>So i&#8217;m $15 down for making two game purchases (that were not tracked and one I didn&#8217;t even make). Which gives me a total of $5 for over 15 game sales.</p>
<p>If you have any dealings with this company be very careful. They are uncontactable and from my experiance unscrupulous. They don&#8217;t even track clicks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been promoting and selling stuff through affiliates since 2001. I have never seen customer service or sales scraping as bad as this.</p>
<p>Stay away.</p>
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		<title>By: Madhu Ilavarasu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madhu Ilavarasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Juuso,

My name is Madhu, i am working as a Sr. QA Lead in a mobile gaming company. I want to become a &quot;Game Producer&quot;. I need direction to see myself a Game Producer. 

I really doesn&#039;t know from where to start ? what all the things i need to learn ...
 
I need your help to built myself. Please help me out ....

-Madhu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Juuso,</p>
<p>My name is Madhu, i am working as a Sr. QA Lead in a mobile gaming company. I want to become a &#8220;Game Producer&#8221;. I need direction to see myself a Game Producer. </p>
<p>I really doesn&#8217;t know from where to start ? what all the things i need to learn &#8230;</p>
<p>I need your help to built myself. Please help me out &#8230;.</p>
<p>-Madhu</p>
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