Comments on: Professional Game Launch Training Videos (Product Launch Formula) http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/ I bake games. Indie style. Thu, 16 May 2013 13:23:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rodrigo Contreras http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134352 Rodrigo Contreras Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:22:58 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134352 Lads. I'll be the best testimony here. Give a month or two and I'll right and article to Juuso about my case. Rod Lads. I’ll be the best testimony here. Give a month or two and I’ll right and article to Juuso about my case.

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]]> By: col000r http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134268 col000r Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:42:58 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134268 This sounds like a very expensive and time-consuming scam to me... there's just so much marketing-blah-blah beyond that link... it's trying to make you feel good and important by giving you lots of lists to follow and bulletin points to refer to... well, if someone needs to spend $2000 to learn that there really isn't an easy formula for success, my condolences... and wasn't this blog about game-development/production once? lately it's just trying to sell me memberships and stuff... This sounds like a very expensive and time-consuming scam to me… there’s just so much marketing-blah-blah beyond that link… it’s trying to make you feel good and important by giving you lots of lists to follow and bulletin points to refer to… well, if someone needs to spend $2000 to learn that there really isn’t an easy formula for success, my condolences…

and wasn’t this blog about game-development/production once? lately it’s just trying to sell me memberships and stuff…

]]> By: Juuso Hietalahti http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134261 Juuso Hietalahti Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:44:28 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134261 hobbe: yeh, time/cash solves this, and there most likely will be PLF 3.0 - like next year or so. Sargon: "If the formula is so good, it shouldn’t take hours to explain" hehee :D good catch! yeh, flooding you with info that you don't need indeed counts as spam. It's a training course with all sorts of stuff in it (I don't know the exact details, I've watched the free videos and read everything about it - and the stuff seems to be good. And the guarantee of course is there to secure people) - so, we are not talking about (only) math... hobbe: yeh, time/cash solves this, and there most likely will be PLF 3.0 – like next year or so.

Sargon: “If the formula is so good, it shouldn’t take hours to explain” hehee :D good catch! yeh, flooding you with info that you don’t need indeed counts as spam. It’s a training course with all sorts of stuff in it (I don’t know the exact details, I’ve watched the free videos and read everything about it – and the stuff seems to be good. And the guarantee of course is there to secure people) – so, we are not talking about (only) math…

]]> By: Sargon http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134258 Sargon Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:04:07 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134258 Juuso, my main complaint was that he is flooding me with information I do not need. I don't want to listen to hours of videos and try to find what is the relevant information for me, and what is just promotion. If the formula is so good, it shouldn't take hours to explain, it should be straight forward and simple. If it is actually a mathemtical formula, something like: Number of people in list * Content sales pitch = money, or something like that. If it takes hours to understand the basics of the formula, that I am not even sure applies to my situation, then maybe its not for me. Juuso, my main complaint was that he is flooding me with information I do not need.
I don’t want to listen to hours of videos and try to find what is the relevant information for me, and what is just promotion.
If the formula is so good, it shouldn’t take hours to explain, it should be straight forward and simple.
If it is actually a mathemtical formula, something like: Number of people in list * Content sales pitch = money, or something like that.
If it takes hours to understand the basics of the formula, that I am not even sure applies to my situation, then maybe its not for me.

]]> By: hObbE @ SpellOfPlay http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134256 hObbE @ SpellOfPlay Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:48:57 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134256 Maybe the post did not come through or it's in your moderation queue :P I'll be the first to admit that this offer it quite tempting (I guess the course would not be that good if it wasn't). God knows that I need to improve my sale skills I guess probably most of us do. But alas, I don't have the time nor the cash and I wonder if it applies that well to shareware games. Not that ye ol' shareware model is the only way to go... just the simplest for an indie... I guess... Would be cool to hear if anyone goes for it, and their experiences... I guess there will be a PLF 3.0+ in time :) Maybe the post did not come through or it’s in your moderation queue :P

I’ll be the first to admit that this offer it quite tempting (I guess the course would not be that good if it wasn’t). God knows that I need to improve my sale skills I guess probably most of us do.

But alas, I don’t have the time nor the cash and I wonder if it applies that well to shareware games. Not that ye ol’ shareware model is the only way to go… just the simplest for an indie… I guess…

Would be cool to hear if anyone goes for it, and their experiences… I guess there will be a PLF 3.0+ in time :)

]]> By: Juuso Hietalahti http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134255 Juuso Hietalahti Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:00:21 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134255 <i>"it seems like he is giving content just to prepare me to be his client."</i> Yeh, that's the idea. It's no wonder we game developers are using "free trial download" ;) Anyway, check out the stuff and... make up your own mind. I admit there's quite a bit of selling/promoting stuff going on, and... just make up your own mind. :) Just wrote another post with some fluffy sales talk... anyway, check out the sales page and do as you see fit. ;) I'm offering free lifetime Insiders membership for those who join the program through my affiliate link, so that alone is a reason to join the program - right? :) ps. hobbe... couldn't spot that comment, gimme link :) “it seems like he is giving content just to prepare me to be his client.”
Yeh, that’s the idea. It’s no wonder we game developers are using “free trial download” ;)

Anyway, check out the stuff and… make up your own mind. I admit there’s quite a bit of selling/promoting stuff going on, and… just make up your own mind. :)

Just wrote another post with some fluffy sales talk… anyway, check out the sales page and do as you see fit. ;)

I’m offering free lifetime Insiders membership for those who join the program through my affiliate link, so that alone is a reason to join the program – right? :)

ps. hobbe… couldn’t spot that comment, gimme link :)

]]> By: hObbE - Spell of Play http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134253 hObbE - Spell of Play Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:48:51 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134253 Sent one of my emails and checked the vids. Some interesting stuff, but a lot of "fluffy" sales talk and thus it takes a lot of time. I get a "snake oil" feeling from this and personally I'm a bit sick of all these video sales pitches and then there is the price of $2000... The interesting part is mostly to extrapolate what is said/explained in the vids and on how you have developed your business Juuso. P.S. please delete my last comment, for some reason the form was auto completed using some silly name etc. :p Sent one of my emails and checked the vids. Some interesting stuff, but a lot of “fluffy” sales talk and thus it takes a lot of time. I get a “snake oil” feeling from this and personally I’m a bit sick of all these video sales pitches and then there is the price of $2000…

The interesting part is mostly to extrapolate what is said/explained in the vids and on how you have developed your business Juuso.

P.S. please delete my last comment, for some reason the form was auto completed using some silly name etc. :p

]]> By: Sargon http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134251 Sargon Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:05:35 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134251 Hmm, why do I need to listen to videos that are not the real thing? I want to know what is the formula, and it seems like he is giving content just to prepare me to be his client. Hmm, why do I need to listen to videos that are not the real thing?
I want to know what is the formula, and it seems like he is giving content just to prepare me to be his client.

]]> By: Juuso Hietalahti http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134249 Juuso Hietalahti Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:58:42 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134249 That's totally cool. (The email is used to send you those case studies (and of course sales pitch about the product), and you can unsubscribe by clicking on any email you get from him. Never got any spam from this guy...) That’s totally cool. (The email is used to send you those case studies (and of course sales pitch about the product), and you can unsubscribe by clicking on any email you get from him. Never got any spam from this guy…)

]]> By: psycho http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/04/14/professional-game-launch-training-videos-product-launch-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-134247 psycho Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:30:54 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=2852#comment-134247 Well, I'm not going to sell my email to somebody that is hiding all the information just to get my email. Well, I’m not going to sell my email to somebody that is hiding all the information just to get my email.

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