Comments on: Cool New Ways to Play Games (Videos From E3 09) http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/ I bake games. Indie style. Thu, 16 May 2013 13:23:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sargon http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135021 Sargon Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:26:47 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135021 Bottom line, this video's purpose seem to be pure hype. It doesn't tell anything about what new technologies microsoft has discovered. It doesn't tell you almost anything about the capabilities of what they presented. Because they want you to assume what they achieved, without them telling you that. Most likely, many of the things there are scripted. I don't believe they were able to create a sentient being inside their XBOX. Bottom line, this video’s purpose seem to be pure hype.
It doesn’t tell anything about what new technologies microsoft has discovered. It doesn’t tell you almost anything about the capabilities of what they presented.
Because they want you to assume what they achieved, without them telling you that.
Most likely, many of the things there are scripted.
I don’t believe they were able to create a sentient being inside their XBOX.

]]> By: Sargon http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135020 Sargon Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:51:13 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135020 By not perfect it could mean you have to put your face directly in front of the camera, makes sure the room lighting is specific, and have at least 3 or 4 attempts before it recognize you. My big question is, what is the new technology? This is a video ment for the wide audience. It is not an academic article specifing the new advances microsoft has suddenly made in several fields. An advancement labs and universities all over the world are toiling to achieve. The best I can think of is that they have bought technologies from some research projects in universities. But since as far as I know, no one has achieved good, commercial use, face recognition. I would be surprised MS has achieved this, in their secret lab, without anyone on the academy knows about it. By not perfect it could mean you have to put your face directly in front of the camera, makes sure the room lighting is specific, and have at least 3 or 4 attempts before it recognize you.
My big question is, what is the new technology?
This is a video ment for the wide audience.
It is not an academic article specifing the new advances microsoft has suddenly made in several fields.
An advancement labs and universities all over the world are toiling to achieve.
The best I can think of is that they have bought technologies from some research projects in universities.
But since as far as I know, no one has achieved good, commercial use, face recognition. I would be surprised MS has achieved this, in their secret lab, without anyone on the academy knows about it.

]]> By: Frantic-Sheep http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135016 Frantic-Sheep Sat, 06 Jun 2009 10:23:34 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135016 Well they never said it was *perfect* right? ;) I think Project Natal is a great R&D project and would love to see what comes out of it. I won't be stoked about the games most likely (seeing I dislike most Wii tech games anyway) but the technology is really cool :). Well they never said it was *perfect* right? ;)

I think Project Natal is a great R&D project and would love to see what comes out of it. I won’t be stoked about the games most likely (seeing I dislike most Wii tech games anyway) but the technology is really cool :).

]]> By: Sargon http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135013 Sargon Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:35:53 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135013 Well, let me rephrase that. I doubt MS brought anything new or revolutionary to the face recognition field. There are face recognition methods, though they all have their own limitations. Well, let me rephrase that.
I doubt MS brought anything new or revolutionary to the face recognition field.
There are face recognition methods, though they all have their own limitations.

]]> By: Sargon http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135012 Sargon Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:26:13 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135012 I really doubt that MS solved the face recognition problem. I can find out about it, because I work in this field. But maybe I am uninformed. The problem is very complex. I really doubt that MS solved the face recognition problem. I can find out about it, because I work in this field.
But maybe I am uninformed.
The problem is very complex.

]]> By: Juuso http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135005 Juuso Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:00:36 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135005 Yeh, MS video has a line: "Product vision: actual features and functionality may vary." They are good at hype ;) Anyway - maybe at some point... I personally think that the Sony's PS3 thing seemed pretty slick. I suppose it's close to Wii (without wiimote), but still... it reacted really well to the movement. Yeh, MS video has a line: “Product vision: actual features and functionality may vary.” They are good at hype ;)
Anyway – maybe at some point…

I personally think that the Sony’s PS3 thing seemed pretty slick. I suppose it’s close to Wii (without wiimote), but still… it reacted really well to the movement.

]]> By: karma http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135004 karma Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:49:27 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135004 all this is meshing together slowly. but the natal project smelled bad. the presentation is incredibly stiff, happy stupid grins all round. arrrg or maybe it was satire. probably not. how the usability for these things really works out and how annoying it will be when they bug at you will at last be found out. As for skepticism on milo, im sure if you throw the sort of resources together that people have been working on for decades something will also start emerging. again most of what anybody does will fly right by but you have to take the same attitude as with the old textbased games, learn the verbs. Can imagine 'go play with milo' being a household world for some kids... all this is meshing together slowly. but the natal project smelled bad. the presentation is incredibly stiff, happy stupid grins all round. arrrg or maybe it was satire. probably not.
how the usability for these things really works out and how annoying it will be when they bug at you will at last be found out.
As for skepticism on milo, im sure if you throw the sort of resources together that people have been working on for decades something will also start emerging. again most of what anybody does will fly right by but you have to take the same attitude as with the old textbased games, learn the verbs. Can imagine ‘go play with milo’ being a household world for some kids…

]]> By: Sebastien Larocque http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135003 Sebastien Larocque Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:34:05 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135003 Ya! That is so great! I have a good feeling about this. I am wondering how long it will take before game developers release real games with these technologies. It looks ready, but we don't know the costs associated with this. At the moment it does not look like for Indies. May be in few years I hope. Ya! That is so great! I have a good feeling about this. I am wondering how long it will take before game developers release real games with these technologies. It looks ready, but we don’t know the costs associated with this. At the moment it does not look like for Indies. May be in few years I hope.

]]> By: Jake Birkett http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-135001 Jake Birkett Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:07:47 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-135001 Neat (and a bit cheesy). I for one am looking forward to games like this. Neat (and a bit cheesy). I for one am looking forward to games like this.

]]> By: FlowClawDaddy http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/06/04/cool-new-ways-to-play-games-videos-from-e3-09/comment-page-1/#comment-134999 FlowClawDaddy Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:10:08 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3108#comment-134999 Hasn't MS been working on this facial recognition stuff for ages now? I remember reading about it back in the Windows 95 days, that future OSs by MS would read your facial expressions to better understand you and what you are trying to do, etc. Seems like this might be them finally putting some of those many years of research to use. (Not that I believe everything we see here is real or full working yet) Hasn’t MS been working on this facial recognition stuff for ages now? I remember reading about it back in the Windows 95 days, that future OSs by MS would read your facial expressions to better understand you and what you are trying to do, etc. Seems like this might be them finally putting some of those many years of research to use. (Not that I believe everything we see here is real or full working yet)

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