Comments on: Contest: The Whine Free Week Challenge http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/ I bake games. Indie style. Thu, 16 May 2013 13:23:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jake Birkett http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135959 Jake Birkett Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:21:44 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135959 @Juuso: sure I have too, but it's a good reminder to have something physical. Some people who do this experiment say absolutely no complaining about anything, a more sensible approach I heard about was that if you complain it must be immediately followed with your proposed solution otherwise it is just a pointless whine. @Juuso: sure I have too, but it’s a good reminder to have something physical. Some people who do this experiment say absolutely no complaining about anything, a more sensible approach I heard about was that if you complain it must be immediately followed with your proposed solution otherwise it is just a pointless whine.

]]> By: Steven Egan http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135958 Steven Egan Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:14:10 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135958 I'd say there is a different between constructive criticism, informing of a problem and whining. Mostly, were you being whiny when you informed the person. If it's a "just to let you know" to when you are supposed to, such as telling somebody about a design problem or similar. You don't have to be whiny to get the point across, nor does "lodging a complaint" have to be complaining. For instance with the howling dog, telling the people in charge that it was a problem is one thing, because that's proper feedback, but making a big deal about how annoying, inconvenient etc... it was is not feedback, it's whining. Basically, is it proper communication in a way you are supposed to, or are you going overboard and making a big deal out of personal grievances. If nothing else, think of testers. Testers are supposed to report bugs in the system and possibly report their reaction, but they aren't supposed to be whiny or complain about the bugs, just inform. I’d say there is a different between constructive criticism, informing of a problem and whining. Mostly, were you being whiny when you informed the person. If it’s a “just to let you know” to when you are supposed to, such as telling somebody about a design problem or similar. You don’t have to be whiny to get the point across, nor does “lodging a complaint” have to be complaining. For instance with the howling dog, telling the people in charge that it was a problem is one thing, because that’s proper feedback, but making a big deal about how annoying, inconvenient etc… it was is not feedback, it’s whining.

Basically, is it proper communication in a way you are supposed to, or are you going overboard and making a big deal out of personal grievances. If nothing else, think of testers. Testers are supposed to report bugs in the system and possibly report their reaction, but they aren’t supposed to be whiny or complain about the bugs, just inform.

]]> By: Sargon http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135957 Sargon Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:51:09 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135957 I can't stop whining, I am sorry. At least as long as I work part time in a job I am not satisfied with. So I will have to "retire" from this competition. I can’t stop whining, I am sorry.
At least as long as I work part time in a job I am not satisfied with.
So I will have to “retire” from this competition.

]]> By: Juuso http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135956 Juuso Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:33:01 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135956 @Tobias: yes, cynical counts as well :) @Chris: hah hah, awesome story! :) @Jake: do you ever need to switch the wristband from one hand to another...? ;) @AnttiKi: yes, that's whining. :) @Lumooja: stop whining. :p @Tobias: yes, cynical counts as well :)

@Chris: hah hah, awesome story! :)

@Jake: do you ever need to switch the wristband from one hand to another…? ;)

@AnttiKi: yes, that’s whining. :)

@Lumooja: stop whining. :p

]]> By: Lumooja http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135954 Lumooja Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:44:55 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135954 I think it's counter-productive to stop whining, because the root of the problem should be fixed, what causes the whining :) I think it’s counter-productive to stop whining, because the root of the problem should be fixed, what causes the whining :)

]]> By: AnttiKi http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135953 AnttiKi Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:16:53 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135953 I need to add that the mere thought of a lonely dog did not in fact keep me awake -- it was the howling. I need to add that the mere thought of a lonely dog did not in fact keep me awake — it was the howling.

]]> By: AnttiKi http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135952 AnttiKi Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:16:01 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135952 I'm wondering about the borderline cases. For example, my neighbor kept me up last night until 1:30 AM by leaving her huge dog home alone when she was in a bar drinking beer (or so I guess). I'm definitely complaining to the housing cooperative. Is that considered whining? And next week, we'll have a non-hairsplitting week :) I’m wondering about the borderline cases. For example, my neighbor kept me up last night until 1:30 AM by leaving her huge dog home alone when she was in a bar drinking beer (or so I guess). I’m definitely complaining to the housing cooperative. Is that considered whining?

And next week, we’ll have a non-hairsplitting week :)

]]> By: Jake Birkett http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135951 Jake Birkett Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:31:09 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135951 This is great. I love to do this too. I have white wristband that I wear and when I complain I have to swap it to the other wrist. The aim is to get through a day without swapping it. Then a week, then a month etc... Sometimes it's hard not to join in when other people around you are just complaining. But it is possible even if you have to just stay silent. Sometimes though it's fun to suggest something positive about what they are complaining about. Try it! This is great. I love to do this too. I have white wristband that I wear and when I complain I have to swap it to the other wrist. The aim is to get through a day without swapping it. Then a week, then a month etc…

Sometimes it’s hard not to join in when other people around you are just complaining. But it is possible even if you have to just stay silent. Sometimes though it’s fun to suggest something positive about what they are complaining about. Try it!

]]> By: Chris P http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135949 Chris P Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:20:15 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135949 Very shortly after reading this post, I had occasion to log into Digg. Now, my Digg password is shared between Digg and some other low-importance sites. However, it's slightly different on Digg, because that site doesn't allow punctuation in passwords. I forgot about that when I was entering the password and typed the punctuation anyway, so obviously I got a "wrong password" screen. Flummoxed for a moment, I suddenly remembered about that policy. I was about to whine about Digg's perverse punctuation-prohibited password policy (are we awarded additional anti-whining accolades after allegedly accomplishing advanced alliteration abuse?), but then I remembered this contest and stopped myself. I smiled, calmly re-entered the punctuation-free variant of my password, and went on my merry Digging way. Very shortly after reading this post, I had occasion to log into Digg. Now, my Digg password is shared between Digg and some other low-importance sites. However, it’s slightly different on Digg, because that site doesn’t allow punctuation in passwords. I forgot about that when I was entering the password and typed the punctuation anyway, so obviously I got a “wrong password” screen. Flummoxed for a moment, I suddenly remembered about that policy.

I was about to whine about Digg’s perverse punctuation-prohibited password policy (are we awarded additional anti-whining accolades after allegedly accomplishing advanced alliteration abuse?), but then I remembered this contest and stopped myself.

I smiled, calmly re-entered the punctuation-free variant of my password, and went on my merry Digging way.

]]> By: Tobias Scheuer http://www.gameproducer.net/2009/08/25/contest-the-whine-free-week-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-135948 Tobias Scheuer Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:15:14 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=3451#comment-135948 Great idea! There is definitely too much whining and not enough just doing what has to be done around almost everywhere. Btw, is being cynical also whining? We do have a lot of fun making cynic comments in our team at work. Great idea! There is definitely too much whining and not enough just doing what has to be done around almost everywhere.

Btw, is being cynical also whining? We do have a lot of fun making cynic comments in our team at work.

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