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	<title>Comments on: Mailing List &#8220;Data Compromise&#8221; Or &#8220;They Got Hacked And Your Email Might (Possibly) Was Stolen&#8221; As I&#8217;d Put It</title>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-139388</link>
		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Switched the lists from aweber to YMLP:
http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/02/26/switched-my-mailing-list-provider-to-ymlp/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switched the lists from aweber to YMLP:<br />
<a href="http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/02/26/switched-my-mailing-list-provider-to-ymlp/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/02/26/switched-my-mailing-list-provider-to-ymlp/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138866</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I really thought it was you? But I didn&#039;t have too much time to look at the vids. I felt bad. But now, I don&#039;t. Because it wasn&#039;t you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I really thought it was you? But I didn&#8217;t have too much time to look at the vids. I felt bad. But now, I don&#8217;t. Because it wasn&#8217;t you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Birkett</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138852</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Birkett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m disgusted!



Kidding ;-)  I use a generic email for newletter signups so if I get spam too it&#039;s no big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disgusted!</p>
<p>Kidding ;-)  I use a generic email for newletter signups so if I get spam too it&#8217;s no big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138834</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t noticed an increase either.  Let&#039;s be honest, though... I think we all realize that ANY time you put your email on the web, there is some risk of it getting into the wrong hands.

Years ago I started keeping a separate email from my personal email for &quot;lists&quot;, and now I run all emails on my domain through Google Apps anyway (essentially checking them with the same interface you use with Gmail). Google/Gmail has amazing spam control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t noticed an increase either.  Let&#8217;s be honest, though&#8230; I think we all realize that ANY time you put your email on the web, there is some risk of it getting into the wrong hands.</p>
<p>Years ago I started keeping a separate email from my personal email for &#8220;lists&#8221;, and now I run all emails on my domain through Google Apps anyway (essentially checking them with the same interface you use with Gmail). Google/Gmail has amazing spam control.</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138833</link>
		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh... several more comments were in moderation panel, answering more:

Thanks everybody for your attitude &amp; patience. 

@Thomas: 
&lt;i&gt;&quot;No worries, mate. I’m always spammed to death anyway… a few hundred more isn’t going to make any difference.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
:)

@anonymous: yeh, I&#039;ll check it. I haven&#039;t heard similar from YMLP, but naturally good to check before making a switch. At least if I find something interesting, I&#039;ll make a blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230; several more comments were in moderation panel, answering more:</p>
<p>Thanks everybody for your attitude &#038; patience. </p>
<p>@Thomas:<br />
<i>&#8220;No worries, mate. I’m always spammed to death anyway… a few hundred more isn’t going to make any difference.&#8221;</i><br />
:)</p>
<p>@anonymous: yeh, I&#8217;ll check it. I haven&#8217;t heard similar from YMLP, but naturally good to check before making a switch. At least if I find something interesting, I&#8217;ll make a blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138832</link>
		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Janette: yeh, the good news are that spam systems like spamassassin that can handle email spam control.

@DtD: I don&#039;t recall saying anything like that. :)

@Iain: well, that was pretty much the thing I knew, so I might as well others know. Besides, who knows if there&#039;s other Aweber users who haven&#039;t heard about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Janette: yeh, the good news are that spam systems like spamassassin that can handle email spam control.</p>
<p>@DtD: I don&#8217;t recall saying anything like that. :)</p>
<p>@Iain: well, that was pretty much the thing I knew, so I might as well others know. Besides, who knows if there&#8217;s other Aweber users who haven&#8217;t heard about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138831</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a big deal. It&#039;s bound to happen, thankfully I use gmail which keeps spam to minimum. If they are a good provider why switch? The damage has been done and chances are the plugged the hole already. So I would think that staying with them would be more secure moving forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a big deal. It&#8217;s bound to happen, thankfully I use gmail which keeps spam to minimum. If they are a good provider why switch? The damage has been done and chances are the plugged the hole already. So I would think that staying with them would be more secure moving forward.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous_today</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138830</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous_today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of our subscribers complained about the same thing (i.e. getting spam in address which was only used in our subscription list). We have been quite careful with the subscriber data, so I think the only leak from our part would have been the mailing list service, which is YMLP in our case.

I don&#039;t believe that they would have sold the email address data, but it hasn&#039;t occurred to me to ask from them if they have had a similar incident. Also I haven&#039;t got spam to my test addresses in the same list, so I&#039;m not confident that all of the addresses would have been compromised either, so this might be just an isolated incident from some other surprising chain of events.

Before you switch, if you do extra research to check which companies have had these kind of problems etc., would be nice if you post your findings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of our subscribers complained about the same thing (i.e. getting spam in address which was only used in our subscription list). We have been quite careful with the subscriber data, so I think the only leak from our part would have been the mailing list service, which is YMLP in our case.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that they would have sold the email address data, but it hasn&#8217;t occurred to me to ask from them if they have had a similar incident. Also I haven&#8217;t got spam to my test addresses in the same list, so I&#8217;m not confident that all of the addresses would have been compromised either, so this might be just an isolated incident from some other surprising chain of events.</p>
<p>Before you switch, if you do extra research to check which companies have had these kind of problems etc., would be nice if you post your findings.</p>
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		<title>By: DtD Software</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138829</link>
		<dc:creator>DtD Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember telling you to just make your own newsletter system some time ago.... =p

~DtD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember telling you to just make your own newsletter system some time ago&#8230;. =p</p>
<p>~DtD</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/01/26/mailing-list-data-compromise-or-they-got-hacked-and-your-email-might-possibly-was-stolen-as-id-put-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138828</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not your fault Juuso

It&#039;s annoying when you get let down by supposedly reputable companies but it shows great customer service from you for openly letting us all know!

Iain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not your fault Juuso</p>
<p>It&#8217;s annoying when you get let down by supposedly reputable companies but it shows great customer service from you for openly letting us all know!</p>
<p>Iain</p>
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