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	<title>Comments on: Would You Get In To This &#8220;Spotify for Games&#8221; Indie Portal? (Players-Pay-Monthly-Model)</title>
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		<title>By: Ovogame</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/08/26/would-you-get-in-to-this-spotify-for-games-indie-portal-players-pay-monthly-model/comment-page-1/#comment-141974</link>
		<dc:creator>Ovogame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is already in place for downloaded casual games. And to be honest this is a really bad idea. As a dev, we see very little money coming in from these channels. 

As a dev, this only work if your game as a very high replayability. If not, just don&#039;t put it in this kind of channels or you will hurt your incomes.

JC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is already in place for downloaded casual games. And to be honest this is a really bad idea. As a dev, we see very little money coming in from these channels. </p>
<p>As a dev, this only work if your game as a very high replayability. If not, just don&#8217;t put it in this kind of channels or you will hurt your incomes.</p>
<p>JC</p>
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		<title>By: Koen Witters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koen Witters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted &#039;No&#039; because I don&#039;t think this would generate much revenue for me. And as a gamer, I don&#039;t see the benefit: if I like a game I just buy and play it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted &#8216;No&#8217; because I don&#8217;t think this would generate much revenue for me. And as a gamer, I don&#8217;t see the benefit: if I like a game I just buy and play it.</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be very interested to hear &quot;why not&quot;, or any comments why &quot;yes&quot; votes were given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be very interested to hear &#8220;why not&#8221;, or any comments why &#8220;yes&#8221; votes were given.</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
		<link>http://www.gameproducer.net/2010/08/26/would-you-get-in-to-this-spotify-for-games-indie-portal-players-pay-monthly-model/comment-page-1/#comment-141937</link>
		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly. I feel that there&#039;s already enough portals with freeware games though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly. I feel that there&#8217;s already enough portals with freeware games though.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Juuso: No, users are not paying for playing MY game, but for using the SERVICE.

To underline it: I don&#039;t want to blow your idea with my own interests (I&#039;m way away of finishing my current project, though), I just think that a potentially high frequented indie site with tons of (commercial!) games the users pay for should also have a freeware/open source section to keep a certain a &quot;hard core&quot; indie spirit and to give some people a chance who love to make passionated games but don&#039;t care about running businesses or making 10 grand per month ;-)

Therefore, beside the &quot;premium&quot; categories a category like &quot;indie freeware&quot; or even &quot;indie open source&quot; would be a nice opportunity to get A) publicity for the game, the developer and his other games (e.g. his portfolio for interested employees), through users which use your service and extensions like Amazon (people who buyed/played this game also played this game) and/or B) they are able to support these freeware/opensource indies. The freeware/open source developer gets no share like the others, but you could place beside the download button a box with &quot;ways to support the developer of this game&quot;, like a PayPal button for donations, a link to the developer&#039;s Amazon wishlist or something like this.

So basically, the player can decide to download the game and play it, but he can also decide if he invests additional money to support the developer.

The benefits are that 1.) the user does only pay more if he decides to, 2.) the other commercial indie developers (isnt that irony??) are not angry, because the freeware/open source people don&#039;t get their share. You could argue that you have work overhead and storage overhead for the freeware/opensource people, but you could require from them a small fee (like 5-20$) to host their game. This also guarantees that not every crap is submitted to your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Juuso: No, users are not paying for playing MY game, but for using the SERVICE.</p>
<p>To underline it: I don&#8217;t want to blow your idea with my own interests (I&#8217;m way away of finishing my current project, though), I just think that a potentially high frequented indie site with tons of (commercial!) games the users pay for should also have a freeware/open source section to keep a certain a &#8220;hard core&#8221; indie spirit and to give some people a chance who love to make passionated games but don&#8217;t care about running businesses or making 10 grand per month ;-)</p>
<p>Therefore, beside the &#8220;premium&#8221; categories a category like &#8220;indie freeware&#8221; or even &#8220;indie open source&#8221; would be a nice opportunity to get A) publicity for the game, the developer and his other games (e.g. his portfolio for interested employees), through users which use your service and extensions like Amazon (people who buyed/played this game also played this game) and/or B) they are able to support these freeware/opensource indies. The freeware/open source developer gets no share like the others, but you could place beside the download button a box with &#8220;ways to support the developer of this game&#8221;, like a PayPal button for donations, a link to the developer&#8217;s Amazon wishlist or something like this.</p>
<p>So basically, the player can decide to download the game and play it, but he can also decide if he invests additional money to support the developer.</p>
<p>The benefits are that 1.) the user does only pay more if he decides to, 2.) the other commercial indie developers (isnt that irony??) are not angry, because the freeware/open source people don&#8217;t get their share. You could argue that you have work overhead and storage overhead for the freeware/opensource people, but you could require from them a small fee (like 5-20$) to host their game. This also guarantees that not every crap is submitted to your site.</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christian: Well, if people want to pay to play your freeware game, in that case you could consider selling it... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Christian: Well, if people want to pay to play your freeware game, in that case you could consider selling it&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, like Metaboli - but for indie games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, like Metaboli &#8211; but for indie games.</p>
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		<title>By: Leroy 'The 1nteger' Frederick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leroy 'The 1nteger' Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mean like metaboli (http://www.metaboli.co.uk/)?

I&#039;m in the &#039;Hmm, possibly. I&#039;m interested but don&#039;t know yet&#039; because I think it probably will only bring in money similar to what ads do in flash, but I could be completely wrong here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean like metaboli (<a href="http://www.metaboli.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.metaboli.co.uk/</a>)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the &#8216;Hmm, possibly. I&#8217;m interested but don&#8217;t know yet&#8217; because I think it probably will only bring in money similar to what ads do in flash, but I could be completely wrong here.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if I make a freeware game and put it on your site? Would this be unfair to the gamers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if I make a freeware game and put it on your site? Would this be unfair to the gamers?</p>
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