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	<title>Comments on: In the Future, All Gamers Are Athletes (PS3 Move/Xbox Kinect Stuff)</title>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whatever man im not getting into a flame war on a comment section, and actually i have all consoles of the current gen and a lot of previous gen ones plus a fairly good gaming pc so i am certainly not biast and saying things will fail as marketing has a great deal to do with how well these products sell nowardays. Im also sure no one was to say that will fail etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever man im not getting into a flame war on a comment section, and actually i have all consoles of the current gen and a lot of previous gen ones plus a fairly good gaming pc so i am certainly not biast and saying things will fail as marketing has a great deal to do with how well these products sell nowardays. Im also sure no one was to say that will fail etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Sargon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sargon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wii is the best point at the screen device. But it is the worst motion sensing device. 
If nintendo have marketed the wii is a &quot;point to screen&quot; device it would probably wouldn&#039;t be so succesful. Eventhough that is the strongest feature of the wii mote.

So if we are talking about motion devices, in that respect the wii technology is poor.
And there are other games out there than pointing and shooting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wii is the best point at the screen device. But it is the worst motion sensing device.<br />
If nintendo have marketed the wii is a &#8220;point to screen&#8221; device it would probably wouldn&#8217;t be so succesful. Eventhough that is the strongest feature of the wii mote.</p>
<p>So if we are talking about motion devices, in that respect the wii technology is poor.<br />
And there are other games out there than pointing and shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: Fili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I&#039;m the Anonymous, don&#039;t know why it didn&#039;t put my name there...)
Actually I hate Mario games but I respect the enormous sales that it generates. I also respect a console that is years behind it&#039;s competition regarding hardware, yet it still is in the race. And I wasn&#039;t like &quot;OMG and stuff&quot;, I&#039;m way over that age. You shouldn&#039;t jump to conclusions so easy. Actually I&#039;m not a MS hater, I use a lot of MS products. And it&#039;s not about MS, Nintendo, Sony, etc. It seems that I have to repeat myself, because you don&#039;t get it. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HARDWARE.
So, hardware-wise, in my opinion, the Wiimote is the best motion-sensing device because it also allows you to point at the screen. For me motion sensing is useless, I like to point&amp;shoot stuff. If you like to roll on the floor and pet an imaginary dog, it&#039;s your business.
@Jusso: enjoying the show? I hope you brought popcorn ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I&#8217;m the Anonymous, don&#8217;t know why it didn&#8217;t put my name there&#8230;)<br />
Actually I hate Mario games but I respect the enormous sales that it generates. I also respect a console that is years behind it&#8217;s competition regarding hardware, yet it still is in the race. And I wasn&#8217;t like &#8220;OMG and stuff&#8221;, I&#8217;m way over that age. You shouldn&#8217;t jump to conclusions so easy. Actually I&#8217;m not a MS hater, I use a lot of MS products. And it&#8217;s not about MS, Nintendo, Sony, etc. It seems that I have to repeat myself, because you don&#8217;t get it. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HARDWARE.<br />
So, hardware-wise, in my opinion, the Wiimote is the best motion-sensing device because it also allows you to point at the screen. For me motion sensing is useless, I like to point&amp;shoot stuff. If you like to roll on the floor and pet an imaginary dog, it&#8217;s your business.<br />
@Jusso: enjoying the show? I hope you brought popcorn ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sargon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sargon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 05:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stu,

Notice I myself have no idea what will successed and what not. But I am tired of people saying this or that will be doomed before it was even released.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stu,</p>
<p>Notice I myself have no idea what will successed and what not. But I am tired of people saying this or that will be doomed before it was even released.</p>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha sargon you sound like a typical fanboy yourself, read his comments again juuso never trash talked any console. And yeah move looks good but reviews are in on major review sites now of the launch games and most of them are not imaginative or fun in any way apparently but the controls seem to work well so we can only hope developers will do something good with it and with kinnect too. Although kinnect games seem to be slightly better at the moment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha sargon you sound like a typical fanboy yourself, read his comments again juuso never trash talked any console. And yeah move looks good but reviews are in on major review sites now of the launch games and most of them are not imaginative or fun in any way apparently but the controls seem to work well so we can only hope developers will do something good with it and with kinnect too. Although kinnect games seem to be slightly better at the moment</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got front row tickets to a fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got front row tickets to a fight!</p>
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		<title>By: Sargon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sargon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous,
You are probably a nintendo fanboy and an MS hater. &quot;OMG MS will fail! OMG Nintendo rulez, lol!&quot;
I have heard all of your arguments again and again from people like you who don&#039;t know what they are talking about.
I am kind of sick of it to be honest.
Maybe in a few years you will be more open and less fanboy. But until then, enjoy your mario games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous,<br />
You are probably a nintendo fanboy and an MS hater. &#8220;OMG MS will fail! OMG Nintendo rulez, lol!&#8221;<br />
I have heard all of your arguments again and again from people like you who don&#8217;t know what they are talking about.<br />
I am kind of sick of it to be honest.<br />
Maybe in a few years you will be more open and less fanboy. But until then, enjoy your mario games.</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I like about Kinect is that it sort of pushes the limits of gaming. 

Okay... maybe you look like a fool waving your hands in front of a tv, but think for example kids! They don&#039;t mind &quot;looking like fools&quot; (and therefore they won&#039;t). They will giggle and experiment with stuff and create something cool out of it, when given tools.

Or... think of exercising. I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s already a game (or coming anywhere near) but what if the game could track your movement while you do pushups or whatnot, and it could give tips or calculate how much you&#039;ve done. 

I don&#039;t have xbox nor planning to get one (I do have ps3 and might get move for curiosity - I never had Wii you know), but I think it has tons of potential.

In fact, it&#039;s sort of a really cool concept this &quot;you are the controller&quot;. 

I would think that it will take at least couple of rounds to get it right thought. My prediction is that Kinect (first gen) will have some success in certain games, but after couple of years (after technology improves and after getting feedback and new game design ideas), it will be a Really Cool Thing. 

Meanwhile... Move cloned Wii controller, took the next step and is providing a really solid tracking. (That&#039;s what I think, don&#039;t know since haven&#039;t tested the controller). I think Move is technically more usable than Kinect, but it&#039;s up to game designers to get the games to use it properly.

If there&#039;s software (=games) coming for Move, I think it can do just fine. I would expect Kinect&#039;s cool factor to fade away unless the tracking proves to be great. &quot;Pretty good&quot; won&#039;t be enuf.

...but this is just me guessing. We&#039;ll see how it goes when these things are really available to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I like about Kinect is that it sort of pushes the limits of gaming. </p>
<p>Okay&#8230; maybe you look like a fool waving your hands in front of a tv, but think for example kids! They don&#8217;t mind &#8220;looking like fools&#8221; (and therefore they won&#8217;t). They will giggle and experiment with stuff and create something cool out of it, when given tools.</p>
<p>Or&#8230; think of exercising. I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s already a game (or coming anywhere near) but what if the game could track your movement while you do pushups or whatnot, and it could give tips or calculate how much you&#8217;ve done. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have xbox nor planning to get one (I do have ps3 and might get move for curiosity &#8211; I never had Wii you know), but I think it has tons of potential.</p>
<p>In fact, it&#8217;s sort of a really cool concept this &#8220;you are the controller&#8221;. </p>
<p>I would think that it will take at least couple of rounds to get it right thought. My prediction is that Kinect (first gen) will have some success in certain games, but after couple of years (after technology improves and after getting feedback and new game design ideas), it will be a Really Cool Thing. </p>
<p>Meanwhile&#8230; Move cloned Wii controller, took the next step and is providing a really solid tracking. (That&#8217;s what I think, don&#8217;t know since haven&#8217;t tested the controller). I think Move is technically more usable than Kinect, but it&#8217;s up to game designers to get the games to use it properly.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s software (=games) coming for Move, I think it can do just fine. I would expect Kinect&#8217;s cool factor to fade away unless the tracking proves to be great. &#8220;Pretty good&#8221; won&#8217;t be enuf.</p>
<p>&#8230;but this is just me guessing. We&#8217;ll see how it goes when these things are really available to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 09:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sargon: &quot;Did you play river rush?&quot;
We&#039;re not talking about a specific game. We&#039;re considering the whole platform. Just because it&#039;s good for one-two games and it sucks for 100 other games, doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s ok.
I don&#039;t know about you, but I look cooler sitting on my desk playing Starcraft with the mouse/keyboard combo, or sitting in my couch playing God of War with the controller, than waiving hands in front of a camera trying to hit the guy on the screen without breaking mom&#039;s flower pots. And I&#039;m not a good fighter, I don&#039;t know how to fight. If the game mimics my movements, I&#039;m going to get it bad. I prefer to press AABBAAB for a quick combo.
On the other hand I like the WiiMote because I can point at the screen and shoot stuff, it&#039;s fun! Like the old duck-shoot game on the NES...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sargon: &#8220;Did you play river rush?&#8221;<br />
We&#8217;re not talking about a specific game. We&#8217;re considering the whole platform. Just because it&#8217;s good for one-two games and it sucks for 100 other games, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s ok.<br />
I don&#8217;t know about you, but I look cooler sitting on my desk playing Starcraft with the mouse/keyboard combo, or sitting in my couch playing God of War with the controller, than waiving hands in front of a camera trying to hit the guy on the screen without breaking mom&#8217;s flower pots. And I&#8217;m not a good fighter, I don&#8217;t know how to fight. If the game mimics my movements, I&#8217;m going to get it bad. I prefer to press AABBAAB for a quick combo.<br />
On the other hand I like the WiiMote because I can point at the screen and shoot stuff, it&#8217;s fun! Like the old duck-shoot game on the NES&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Juuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 06:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lonestarr: I tried some boxing game on my bro&#039;s Wii, and it was fun. Sure, you could &quot;cheat&quot; by doing &quot;wrist punches&quot;... but if you didn&#039;t do that - it was a bloody fun exercise. Started sweating after 15 mins ;) That&#039;s why asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lonestarr: I tried some boxing game on my bro&#8217;s Wii, and it was fun. Sure, you could &#8220;cheat&#8221; by doing &#8220;wrist punches&#8221;&#8230; but if you didn&#8217;t do that &#8211; it was a bloody fun exercise. Started sweating after 15 mins ;) That&#8217;s why asking.</p>
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