Comments on: Here’s why I cannot steal your game idea even if you want me to http://www.gameproducer.net/2011/12/17/heres-why-i-cannot-steal-your-game-idea-even-if-you-want-me-to/ I bake games. Indie style. Thu, 16 May 2013 13:23:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Juuso http://www.gameproducer.net/2011/12/17/heres-why-i-cannot-steal-your-game-idea-even-if-you-want-me-to/comment-page-1/#comment-147103 Juuso Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:05:22 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=6227#comment-147103 Maybe it's just me then... :) Maybe it’s just me then… :)

]]> By: tdl http://www.gameproducer.net/2011/12/17/heres-why-i-cannot-steal-your-game-idea-even-if-you-want-me-to/comment-page-1/#comment-147100 tdl Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:28:20 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=6227#comment-147100 Isn't one major point in developing an idea into a viable design borrowing from other's ideas? I mean exactly the a bit there a piece here style... Most ideas are bad from the get-go, but after thinking it further, preferably with other people (like brainstorm), you can turn a bad idea into a brilliant one, with those minor adjustments, piece by piece, often "borrowing" in your opinion the best qualities from other's ideas. Allthough, I do believe it is often from succesful completed games we borrow ideas from instead of the unfinished ideas we hear or read (as they haven't been really proven to have looked qualities). Isn’t one major point in developing an idea into a viable design borrowing from other’s ideas? I mean exactly the a bit there a piece here style… Most ideas are bad from the get-go, but after thinking it further, preferably with other people (like brainstorm), you can turn a bad idea into a brilliant one, with those minor adjustments, piece by piece, often “borrowing” in your opinion the best qualities from other’s ideas.

Allthough, I do believe it is often from succesful completed games we borrow ideas from instead of the unfinished ideas we hear or read (as they haven’t been really proven to have looked qualities).

]]> By: Juuso http://www.gameproducer.net/2011/12/17/heres-why-i-cannot-steal-your-game-idea-even-if-you-want-me-to/comment-page-1/#comment-147088 Juuso Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:39:59 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=6227#comment-147088 Gotta admit there's a point in that talk. Although, "the more detail you add..." also means that the less room there is for *my* own ideas. I think bits and pieces can be stolen Gotta admit there’s a point in that talk. Although, “the more detail you add…” also means that the less room there is for *my* own ideas. I think bits and pieces can be stolen

]]> By: Nog http://www.gameproducer.net/2011/12/17/heres-why-i-cannot-steal-your-game-idea-even-if-you-want-me-to/comment-page-1/#comment-147085 Nog Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:10:00 +0000 http://www.gameproducer.net/?p=6227#comment-147085 I disagree. Don't care about my idea? Let's ignore this as to be able to steal my idea, I figure you are reading it in some manner and therefore have some interest related to it. Would rather clone a hit game idea? I see two problems with this: 1) Anything new and therefore unclonable is valuable and 2) The "a bit differently" is also a target Would have to change it anyway? So now you'd steal it and change it?.... isn't that what I wanted to avoid in the first place? It's not new or unique? Where was the portal gun before Narbacular Drop was made? Something's gotta be new at some point. Implementation is what counts? Well yeah, but again this is a matter of detail. If we both made "a racing game", our implementations would be vastly different. However, the problem is when we both make "a racing game that is played on a single screen using only machine guns as weapons". The more details you add to the game idea, the less room for differences in implementation, and that leaves you with two games sharing a very similar space. We all have ideas already? Yeah, but that doesn't mean you don't have room on your plate for more! Maybe you really like my idea for a racing game that plays like guitar hero and you adopt the control scheme to another genre, or take just an idea for a hud and apply it to your game... doesn't that weaken my idea as well? It doesn't have to be the whole idea. There isn't enough detail given to steal? Most of the time, I agree. The point is that I enjoy the planning/designing phase of making games and have many ideas, but I also choose to supplement my arsenal by playing anything from genre staples to indie nobodies. I never take whole ideas, but I commonly take features and adapt them for my own use. I disagree.

Don’t care about my idea? Let’s ignore this as to be able to steal my idea, I figure you are reading it in some manner and therefore have some interest related to it.

Would rather clone a hit game idea? I see two problems with this: 1) Anything new and therefore unclonable is valuable and 2) The “a bit differently” is also a target

Would have to change it anyway? So now you’d steal it and change it?…. isn’t that what I wanted to avoid in the first place?

It’s not new or unique? Where was the portal gun before Narbacular Drop was made? Something’s gotta be new at some point.

Implementation is what counts? Well yeah, but again this is a matter of detail. If we both made “a racing game”, our implementations would be vastly different. However, the problem is when we both make “a racing game that is played on a single screen using only machine guns as weapons”. The more details you add to the game idea, the less room for differences in implementation, and that leaves you with two games sharing a very similar space.

We all have ideas already? Yeah, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have room on your plate for more! Maybe you really like my idea for a racing game that plays like guitar hero and you adopt the control scheme to another genre, or take just an idea for a hud and apply it to your game… doesn’t that weaken my idea as well? It doesn’t have to be the whole idea.

There isn’t enough detail given to steal? Most of the time, I agree.

The point is that I enjoy the planning/designing phase of making games and have many ideas, but I also choose to supplement my arsenal by playing anything from genre staples to indie nobodies. I never take whole ideas, but I commonly take features and adapt them for my own use.

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